> > > > > ok, well how would i happen to do that? the clan maker button links to westwood.

> > > > See http://xhp.xwis.net/xcl/.
> > > ok, thanks
> > umm, it says im typing the wrong password, when i try to create a clan, would i need to use my forum username and pword or the xwis username and pword? i tried both, and double checked my password. niether would work.

> XWIS user/pass. What's the length of your pass?
doesnt it have to be 8 characters? (********)