> no, I think it's like you taught yourself through books or help files or stuff? or maybe not
> but I mean, how could you do it without any resources, you'd just guess and check at function names?!

Maybe look at examples or other code.
I used to look at small C(++) code many, many years ago.

> > > That's self taught, olaf..
> > > that's where I learned most of what I know
> > > and went to some classes in the summer sometimes
> > > I'm in a tech high school now, and the teacher can't even help me with most stuff that I'm doing..

> > > > > how the hell do u guys get into programming? self taught?

> > > > No. Read a book.

> > I thought self taught was really self taught, so without any learning books.