oh well, I consider self taught to mean without the aid of other humans or without classes etc.

> > no, I think it's like you taught yourself through books or help files or stuff? or maybe not
> > but I mean, how could you do it without any resources, you'd just guess and check at function names?!

> Maybe look at examples or other code.
> I used to look at small C(++) code many, many years ago.

> > > > That's self taught, olaf..
> > > > that's where I learned most of what I know
> > > > and went to some classes in the summer sometimes
> > > > I'm in a tech high school now, and the teacher can't even help me with most stuff that I'm doing..

> > > > > > how the hell do u guys get into programming? self taught?

> > > > > No. Read a book.

> > > I thought self taught was really self taught, so without any learning books.