> > > See if that helps...
> > nope, i moved the hosts files from windows and nothing, it doesnt even look like its trying to connect me, when usaly the red wave goes back and forth, on my it doesnt. any other ideas

> Red wave?

> Hmn... let me think about this.....

> If I can't come up with something Olaf might. You'll have to patiently wait for him to return .

i've been patiently w8ing for over a month =], but i've been playing starcraft, man i suck at that game lol.