> > > > > > > ok i found out why so many servers have just the pathetic 4 or 2 player maximums. it's because renegade automatically sets this according to some other setting which i cannot find which has to do with bandwidth. has anyone figured out where that setting is? i have DSL so i should be able to host games very well and yet it won't give me more than 4 players max.

> > > > > > What's the upload and download bandwidth of your DSL?

> > > > > i think it's supposed to be a 384 kilobit per second DSL but the highest i've seen it download at was like 42 kilobytes per second.

> > > > 384 / 8 = 48, so that's no surprise.
> > > > And that's probably not enough to host a > 4 player game.

> > > 4 players is ridiculous. i'm not playing 4 player games. why don't they let us decide how many players we want? the connection rate is not the only important factor.

> > Because then all those players complain about slow and laggy connections.

> i think distance is more important than the data rate.

Distance doesn't matter at all. It's round-trip time that matters. And I think WS knows better then you what is important.