> > > > > > > > > ok i found out why so many servers have just the pathetic 4 or 2 player maximums. it's because renegade automatically sets this according to some other setting which i cannot find which has to do with bandwidth. has anyone figured out where that setting is? i have DSL so i should be able to host games very well and yet it won't give me more than 4 players max.

> > > > > > > > What's the upload and download bandwidth of your DSL?

> > > > > > > i think it's supposed to be a 384 kilobit per second DSL but the highest i've seen it download at was like 42 kilobytes per second.

> > > > > > 384 / 8 = 48, so that's no surprise.
> > > > > > And that's probably not enough to host a > 4 player game.

> > > > > 4 players is ridiculous. i'm not playing 4 player games. why don't they let us decide how many players we want? the connection rate is not the only important factor.

> > > > Because then all those players complain about slow and laggy connections.

> > > i think distance is more important than the data rate.

> > Distance doesn't matter at all. It's round-trip time that matters. And I think WS knows better then you what is important.

> distance affects the round trip time more than the data rate in my current opinion.

Yes, but if you've not got enough bandwidth to send all the data that should be send you've got a much bigger problem.