> btw i forgot to ask Flyby, can gmax models be converted to max models? that would really suck if people spent all this time making gmax models only to find that they have to start over from scratch if they want to be able to use their models for more than just adding them to a few predetermined games.

Common man, you think that they are so stupid at Discreet that they would kill their own $3500 3D flagship with a freeware "lite" version? what would hold big studios from buying just 1 max license and fill up the gaps with GMAX ??

In case you didn't get it yet : no, they are not compatible...