> > > > > > > > should i still make this camouflage feature though? will you be putting a pic up on your site of how your model looks with the camouflage? i want to compare the styles. btw what version of 3ds2vxl are you using? it says it at the top of the readme.htm

> > > > > > > ermm ok ill get a pic of the vxl/model and upload it 2 editing source (http://esource.federationstudios.net/staff/potd/mig21v.jpg)
> > > > > > > thats the URL it will be on if its not thre then im still uploading it,im use'ing 3ds2vxl 0.132.

> > > > > > ok good that's the latest version. so you work many hours on the normals after? do you save them in tiberian sun or Red Alert 2 format? have you noticed any strange errors maybe i can fix for the next version besides the normals? are you able to use the model viewer or do you have Windows XP or 2000 or NT?

> > > > > > i've been making progress on the windows version. i got some directx functions to work. it turns out this version of the compiler has directx already included in it. i just had to add the lib files in some setting. some guys kept telling me where to put that setting but that was for the previous version and now it has all been changed. luckily i found one guy who had the .net version also and he told me where to enter the setting. i swear if i don't write it down somewhere and try to move the compiler and everything to another computer i will not remember where to put that setting. it says nothing about library. it is totally illogical.

> > > > > ok heres the working link for the pic. http://esource.federationstudios.net/staff/potd/mig21.jpg).jpg i dont spend much time on the normals some times it can take a few mins 2 a few hours. and i use windows 98se, i didnt notice any bugs in it yet.. but i do know when i try and use it while i have 3dsmax4 open it takes me 2 the BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!! then i have 2 restart my comp couse it crashes all progs. i aint seen the viewer bit then click run it just runs like normal.

> > > > ok hopefully those crashes will not happen anymore when the windows version is out. Did you lose any work? btw did you switch off the viewer in the front end?

> > > > btw i think i will try to do animation and turret seperation in future versions of 3ds2vxl coz it seems people are having much trouble doing it in the voxel editors. it's gonna be hard though. i know nothing about the animation data in hva files or 3ds files yet. do the animations even convert from max to 3ds format?

> > > ok thats good then if no more crashes when runing 3dsmax at same time as 3ds2vxl, nah i never lost any work couse i make a backup just incase summit goes wrong. ermm i never done any thing 2 switch of the viewer when ii downloaded 3ds2vxl its been the same way i never changed a thing in it so i thought the viewer never workerd.

> > you should switch off the viewer. that is what causes it to crash coz it's a dos program trying to run in windows.

> > > spliting the turret from a vxl is very simple only takes about 5 mins, the best way i do it is make a 3d model and keep the turret attached to the body then run 3ds2vxl then open it in wills 1st vxl editor and use the clear Z tool 2 clear layers away in seconds so it can only take about 5 mins 2 do it.i dont know if u make a model animation the convert 2 3ds if it still works couse i never use the animation tool(dont know how) so i cant help yah there.

> > one technique Alon used was to voxelize models twice. once with the turret deleted and once with the base deleted. but each time he did that he had to put unused vertices at the extremeties of where the deleted sections were to ensure the resolutions and sizes of the 2 voxel sections matched up after.

> > i would really like to know if the animation is converted from max to 3ds coz i heard rumors it was not and if that's true then there's no point in my adding animation support to 3ds2vxl. maybe flyby or alon can tell me.

> > i have now gotten graphics to work with directx directdraw however if you ask me it's very illogical and i was unable to do it without page flipping which is inappropriate for my program coz now you will see very annoying flashing effects similar to what you see in Counter-Strike when you use freelook and move far out and go into the void. therefore there will be no more users of 3ds2vxl in the community who are epileptic coz they will be killed off by this release of my program. i will try to find a way to stop the flashing before release.


> whens the new version of 3ds2vxl gonna be out yah think?

i plan to release right after Flyby gives us a report on his normals research hopefully.